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OWB / CZ-P09

Postby eddy883 » Mon Apr 30, 2018 11:37 pm

looking for good OWB for a cz-p09 am a righty , I like the 4 o'clock and 6 o'clock postions
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Re: OWB / CZ-P09

Postby Brian D. » Wed May 02, 2018 3:41 am

Leather, Kydex, or hybrid of both? Belt loop or paddle? Straight drop, or butt-forward cant? Lots and lots of options, and chances are you'll end up with more than one holster, regardless of how much advice we offer.

One thing many people overlook (at first anyhow) is to get a good belt designed for carry use. The gun/spare magazines/other gear sag, and give your back grief with a $12 cheapie belt from Wal-Mart. That's like putting secondhand tires on a race car.
Quit worrying, hide your gun well, shut up, and CARRY that handgun!

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Re: OWB / CZ-P09

Postby TSiWRX » Wed May 02, 2018 11:16 am

^ The belt - it is TREMENDOUSLY important. Get a good belt, eddy883, as it is the foundation upon which all of your waist carry gear will be attached to.

In terms of the holster, start with a simple yet quality strong-side holster. You noted that you were going to be looking at training classes: if this is the case, please know that there aren't many (if any at all) that will allow you to draw from a 6-o'clock "small of back" ("SOB") setup due to safety concerns, at least not in open-enrollment classes.

Blade-Tech and Comp-Tac both offer quality products that are reasonably priced, and also offer very reasonable lead-times. It's worth checking them out to obtain a basic strong-side OWB belt-loop or possibly paddle-mounted holster, to start you on your way for training.

Understand that your holster requirements - and preferences - can change over time. :) Get a good basic setup to begin with, so you can explore your needs and preferences with your instructors while having a good foundation to start your learning from. :)
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Re: OWB / CZ-P09

Postby eddy883 » Wed May 02, 2018 2:24 pm

TSiWRX wrote:^ The belt - it is TREMENDOUSLY important. Get a good belt, eddy883, as it is the foundation upon which all of your waist carry gear will be attached to.

In terms of the holster, start with a simple yet quality strong-side holster. You noted that you were going to be looking at training classes: if this is the case, please know that there aren't many (if any at all) that will allow you to draw from a 6-o'clock "small of back" ("SOB") setup due to safety concerns, at least not in open-enrollment classes.

Blade-Tech and Comp-Tac both offer quality products that are reasonably priced, and also offer very reasonable lead-times. It's worth checking them out to obtain a basic strong-side OWB belt-loop or possibly paddle-mounted holster, to start you on your way for training.

Understand that your holster requirements - and preferences - can change over time. :) Get a good basic setup to begin with, so you can explore your needs and preferences with your instructors while having a good foundation to start your learning from. :)



by 6 o'clock position I meant holster angle 'my mistake' and I like your info
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Re: OWB / CZ-P09

Postby TSiWRX » Wed May 02, 2018 4:21 pm

^ No need to apologize - you're new, and you'll need time to learn the lingo.

To get us all on the same page, let's all use the same vocabulary. ;) :)

"Clocking," with respect to holster location on one's waist, is defined with the following landmarks:

12-o'clock: dead ahead at the navel
3-o'clock: right hand, outer seam of pants
6-o'clock: at the small of the back, right above the crack :P (hence, "small of back" or "SOB" holster ;) )
9-o'clock: left hand, outer seam of pants

"Strong side" simply means at the side of your dominant hand. If you are right-handed, this would mean a holster that is typically "clocked" from the 2:30-ish to the 4:30 or even 5-ish. Mirror that for a lefty.

The "cant "of the holster relates to the orientation of the muzzle versus the tang (the area of the gun's grip which fits into the "Y" between your thumb and index finger as you hold the gun):

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^ "Muzzle forward" as noted above is sometimes called "reverse cant."

Between the 12 and the 2:30 or 9:30 is what's typically known as "appendix" or "inguinal" carry, and these holsters are typically "straight-drop/no-cant/zero-angle," but some setups allow a bit of "dynamic" cant so as to allow for easier seating and other body positions.

An OWB holster that is "flipped" so that it presents to the strong side but is clocked at the mirror site forward of the hip-line is typically referred to as a cross-draw holster.
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