Help with pistol selection.
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Re: Help with pistol selection.
There is always a Sig DAK or HK LEM if decocker manipulation is the concern.
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Re: Help with pistol selection.
Aaack, you said the "G" word.carmen fovozzo wrote:Never seen a left handed Glock..My Son is left handed and has carried a Glock for 18 years ...he's a police officer...Qualified Top Gun in his class....with a Glock..
Sure she could learn to shoot with her weak hand. But why force it? I want her to enjoy the experience and using her naturally strong hand will make that so much easier.
I am going to keep it simple for her, at least for the first gun, thinking a 'point-n-click' will be the option. I like my Sig P290, but controls are on the wrong side. I read that M&P has a slide release on both sides, and the mag release can be moved to the right side. Anyone have knowledge of the M&P? I have never handled one. Charter Arms Southpaw .38 revolver - thanks JM - I will check that one out if she opts for a wheel gun!
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Re: Help with pistol selection.
Lots of choices with the M&P handgun line. Even a pair of .22 long rifle models. The full size and Compact come with three different size grip inserts. There is also the single column Shield model in 9mm and .40 S&W calibers.
I'll sum up by saying that they all seem to function and hold up well. Somebody else whose phone battery isn't low, please continue where I left off.
I'll sum up by saying that they all seem to function and hold up well. Somebody else whose phone battery isn't low, please continue where I left off.
Quit worrying, hide your gun well, shut up, and CARRY that handgun!
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Re: Help with pistol selection.
techmike wrote:Aaack, you said the "G" word.carmen fovozzo wrote:Never seen a left handed Glock..My Son is left handed and has carried a Glock for 18 years ...he's a police officer...Qualified Top Gun in his class....with a Glock..
Sure she could learn to shoot with her weak hand. But why force it? I want her to enjoy the experience and using her naturally strong hand will make that so much easier.
I am going to keep it simple for her, at least for the first gun, thinking a 'point-n-click' will be the option. I like my Sig P290, but controls are on the wrong side. I read that M&P has a slide release on both sides, and the mag release can be moved to the right side. Anyone have knowledge of the M&P? I have never handled one. Charter Arms Southpaw .38 revolver - thanks JM - I will check that one out if she opts for a wheel gun!
Sig P320 Compact
And a 320sc grip module sized to her hands, for conceal carry .
A wayfarer should not walk unarmed,
But have his weapons to hand:
He knows not when he may need a spear,
Or what menace meet on the road.
- Verse 38 from the Havamal, the Wisdom of Odin.
But have his weapons to hand:
He knows not when he may need a spear,
Or what menace meet on the road.
- Verse 38 from the Havamal, the Wisdom of Odin.
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Re: Help with pistol selection.
It is absolutely feasible to run a 'right hand' gun with a naturally dominant left hand. Ignore the slide release - sling shot it, takes that control out of the equation. Mag release gets pushed with the middle or index finger (gun shifts in hand, but face it they do for everybody when the button gets hit to some extent).techmike wrote: Sure she could learn to shoot with her weak hand. But why force it? I want her to enjoy the experience and using her naturally strong hand will make that so much easier.
I am going to keep it simple for her, at least for the first gun, thinking a 'point-n-click' will be the option. I like my Sig P290, but controls are on the wrong side. I read that M&P has a slide release on both sides, and the mag release can be moved to the right side. Anyone have knowledge of the M&P? I have never handled one. Charter Arms Southpaw .38 revolver - thanks JM - I will check that one out if she opts for a wheel gun!
Look into Walthers and HK's that have the paddle mag release on the bottom of the trigger guard. I think you'll be quite pleased with them, and find that striker fired HK's or used hammer ones aren't that much worse on the budget than a M&P/Glock thing.
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Re: Help with pistol selection.
With some newer designs, the controls can be moved to either side. I know that with the Gen4 Glocks, you can move the magazine release. Some other guns can have controls moved with aftermarket modifications, but this is expensive relative to the cost of the gun itself. Many newer designs also incorporate different sized backstraps and frontstraps to make the grip thinner or thicker.
The best (and only) way to select the right handgun is for her to handle them. The grip should have the right size and feel comfortable in her hand. When grasping it, the hand should naturally hold high on the grip, and all controls should be easy to reach and manipulate without straining or fumbling with the other hand. The important controls are the magazine release and (if present) the safety; as mentioned, having the slide release reachable by one's dominant side isn't essential. Particularly, the finger should be able to reach naturally onto the trigger. When moving the gun into a firing stance, it should feel like it points and aims well. Even if all that seems right, she may still find that the gun doesn't shoot well for her. This isn't something you'll find out until she becomes a good shooter, though.
There's no "best" gun, only which one is best for each person. The two important criteria are how it handles, and that it has a reputation for reliability. Cost should not be a consideration, since practically speaking most of the excellent carry guns range over only a couple hundred dollars difference in price.
The best (and only) way to select the right handgun is for her to handle them. The grip should have the right size and feel comfortable in her hand. When grasping it, the hand should naturally hold high on the grip, and all controls should be easy to reach and manipulate without straining or fumbling with the other hand. The important controls are the magazine release and (if present) the safety; as mentioned, having the slide release reachable by one's dominant side isn't essential. Particularly, the finger should be able to reach naturally onto the trigger. When moving the gun into a firing stance, it should feel like it points and aims well. Even if all that seems right, she may still find that the gun doesn't shoot well for her. This isn't something you'll find out until she becomes a good shooter, though.
There's no "best" gun, only which one is best for each person. The two important criteria are how it handles, and that it has a reputation for reliability. Cost should not be a consideration, since practically speaking most of the excellent carry guns range over only a couple hundred dollars difference in price.
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Re: Help with pistol selection.
I've been carrying the Beretta PX4 Storm Compact over the last few months. It has ambidextrous safety/decocker and the mag release can be mounted to work from either the left or right side. It is a DA/SA with a pretty smooth trigger pull in DA and light in SA.I carry it with the safety off relying on the DA first round pull for safety.
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Re: Help with pistol selection.
I'm a lefty and I haven't really worried about ambidextrous handguns. I actually prefer using my index finger for magazine release. The only thing I miss out on is the slide release lever, so have to rack the slide manually, which isn't too big of a deal. Too often, that slide release lever is a bi*** to operate anyway. I have shied away from manual safeties, and all but one of my semi-auto handguns have been DA/SA with a decocker. I don't typically operate the decocker until I'm done loading (ready to holster), or done shooting and just want to drop the hammer.
If your daughter can handle racking a slide, then her options are fairly open.
If your daughter can handle racking a slide, then her options are fairly open.
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Re: Help with pistol selection.
The Sig P320 has ambi slide lock and I believe the mag release is reversable as well (don't quote me on that, I'll have to look again when I get home).
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Re: Help with pistol selection.
Ed MacMahon voice: "You are correct,Sir."techguy85 wrote:The Sig P320 has ambi slide lock and I believe the mag release is reversable as well (don't quote me on that, I'll have to look again when I get home).
Plus with the different grip modules; it's easy to adapt for hand sizes.
A wayfarer should not walk unarmed,
But have his weapons to hand:
He knows not when he may need a spear,
Or what menace meet on the road.
- Verse 38 from the Havamal, the Wisdom of Odin.
But have his weapons to hand:
He knows not when he may need a spear,
Or what menace meet on the road.
- Verse 38 from the Havamal, the Wisdom of Odin.
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Re: Help with pistol selection.
I wanted to thank everyone for their advice and comments. She has decided on a Walther PK380. The minimal controls are truly ambidextrous, and she was very accurate with one at the range.
Mike
PS: But she wants the PINK one.
Mike
PS: But she wants the PINK one.
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Re: Help with pistol selection.
Well, it WILL be easier to find in low light situations.
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Re: Help with pistol selection.
She is a happy camper. She shoots much better than her older sister.
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